Yes off to hell because the unconditionally loving God is a psycho parent that burns his kids for using freewill and his cohort Stan or Santa of Satan… I get the red guys mixed up. One has horns and a tail and a naughty list, while the other has a big bag of toys, flying reindeer and a naughty list… Funny that one simply gives gifts to the “good” kids, while the other tortures the “bad” kids for eternity. Whenever I see this stupidity, I think just how stupid are humans anyway and just how long will they hang out in the dark ages, doing exactly what the spiritual masters of the ages said not to do.. Don’t judge or be judged. FYI Jesus wasn’t religious and God didn’t write the bible. Men of the dark ages wrote the bible and all of Jesus’s teachings were of love, compassion and mastery, if you follow his way rather than kiss his ass in fear. There is no truth, love, wisdom or compassion in fear nor the “fear of God”.
Thank you for clearly expressing the truth found in Scripture: that Jesus 'paid it all' on the cross. If sinning is mankind's problem, then not sinning is the solution... but the Bible never suggests that avoiding sin is how one gets to Heaven. Nicely done!
Mr. McCraigh, excellent piece, thank you. Suicide is a very difficult subject. I was saved as a child, broke with my Christian faith due to awful grief in youth, spent 35 years in sorrowful wandering and finally made my way back to the Household of God, face down in the mud and filthy from head to spiritual toes. God's mercy brought me back. I still deal with deep depression and CLING, CLING, AND CLING to God every single day. I repent quickly, I ask for His counsel and guidance and have a good and solid church where I live. I am an open book. Faith in Christ does not immediately confer "all things are great now and I am just fine." That is not true, as faith in God and His Son is a daily walk, step by step. I have made progress, for which I am grateful and much of my own Substack is a sharing of my journey through the chaos of the sexual revolution and how the devil lies so well and how he ensnared so many of my Boomer generation. I am just grateful I came back! Suicide has crossed my mind on multiple occasions but I resist, holding on by a fingertip at times but grateful for God's patience and mercy, for the ministry to the brokenhearted that He has given me through the gift of words. I LONG to go Home, though! God bless you for your writing, Sir.
Thank you Jim for a perspective on this difficult topic. I resolve to take up my cross daily, the rest is up to Yeshua. I teach the risen Christ through The Word. If The Word is silent, so shall I be. You are a gifted man and I respect your thoughts.
Now this is an interesting topic! I've always heard that people who commit suicide and take their own life are made to come back and are born into a new physical body and that person has to live the same life over again and deal with the same problems over again that made that person take their life to begin with until that person lives out their full life! That our Creator and Most High will send a soul back into another physical body to live out another earthly life and suffer as punishment for taking his or her own life in a previous lifetime! My thoughts on suicide are that if a person purposely with the intention of ending his or her own earthly life is interfering with the Most High's plan for that person's soul! The Most High gives us life on earth for a reason and a purpose because He knows each souls potential, who and what we can become because He created us! I believe that He sends us into a physical body on earth inorder for us to develop our light and to shine our light that He gives us! So if a person takes their own life then they are putting out their own light and being disrespectful to The Most High and rejecting Him by ending the life that He gave that person! I think that suicide would be an abomination to our Creator and is disrespecting Him! Does a soul automatically go to hell for taking their own life, that's a good question! I don't want to try that and find out!
My Father Chose Suicide After A Long Battle With Cancer Using Canada's MAID Medical Assistance In Dying Program But He Was Never Saved & Would Hear Nothing Of Jesus Christ! Suicide Is Self Murder & Directly Goes Against "Thou Shall Not Commit Murder"!
This is a tough subject on which many good Christians disagree. My father was a minister for 60 years and knew the Bible better than anyone I've known yet he and I disagreed on this subject.
I tend to agree with what you've written here. Though, in fairness there is an argument to be made that someone who commits suicide was never truly saved.
It's not as simple as that, I suspect. I can surely think of reasons why a Christian might commit suicide (accidental drug overdose, overwhelming pain, to avoid torture, etc). But it is my opinion that God will judge fairly.
I do not believe suicide automatically sends you to hell, but it could certainly be an indication that you weren't truly saved in the first place.
Thank you, Jim. As always, you have parsed this difficult subject with biblical truth, and as always, it is spot on. God's promises are always true, no exceptions.
Thank you Jim for this post as it provides some closure for two friends who died from suicide. My very close friend struggled with emotional issues (Bi-polar). In 2016 he brought Heroin into the house saying it was cocaine and I said it's usually white but he said this was a different blend. We both did it and felt on top of the world. The next day he asked if we could buy more and I said why not. The person he bought it from asked me "So you don't have a problem with Smack in your home?" I said it's coke right and he said no it's Heroin. We still made the purchase. In 2014 I was diagnosed with Tardive Dyskinesia which is a permanent uncontrollable movement disorder and it seemed like the drug either reduced the movement or took my mind off them. I recall him saying don't get hooked, well that happens really fast and the withdrawals make you feel near death or wishing you were dead. After depleting all my financial resources I told my friend we had to stop and get clean now. We did and it was not easy but Suboxone helped us get over the hump. This lasted until the Plandemic of Convid came about. Once the stimulus payments came in my friend bought some more and we were back at it again but now it was strictly Fentanyl. Odd how the US leaves Afghanistan around the same time Fentanyl starts to come in through the border. The new years resolution for 2022 was to get clean so I was tapering us off the stuff by limiting how much could be spent and we both got back on Suboxone again. The day my friend is served with divorce papers (Already thought he was divorced) he asked if we could get a little and I caved feeling sorry for him. He comes back and said we really got hooked up we both did that. He was going to watch videos on YouTube in the bedroom like he always did and I was in the other room listening to videos with headphones on and it ends and I don't hear anything from his laptop playing and so I go into the room and he looked like he was asleep. I try to wake him up and am shaking him and yelling into his ear I was going to call 911 and his brother thinking he was playing around and I then realized he wasn't. I administered Narcan twice and nothing and then called 911. They worked on him for what seemed like an hour and came onto the porch and said he was gone. I was in state of shock and was taking his death really hard. I know this was not right but in looking for closure I contacted these Psychics. They were telling me things that were really spot on where I believed a connection was made. At one point I said I know this is probably sinful and goes against the bible but they said no it was biblical and we are supposed to discern the spirits. Basically they said he was under attack by too many Demons and decided to take his life with the Fentanyl. Thinking back too him saying we were hooked up it didn't really look like it to me. So much more I could say as it was pay per question and I asked lots of questions. In closing they said he was in a good place and surrounded by puppies and that was his way of healing. He would always beg me to get a puppy that he could raise and would take care of. This is now set to go to trial after being sent 3 subpoenas which I feel has caused me PTSD because it's hard to move forward with this always on my mind. I called the DA stating I do not know who this guy is that I am supposed to testify against (Manufacturer) and they said it was mainly to prove my friend is dead. I am thinking well you have a death certificate. The man my friend bought the stuff from is in equal trouble but with him going against the person he purchased it from I guess he will get a lighter sentence. Many times I wish I would have died as well but am prayerful that once the trial is over I can finally move forward. With the political and societal landscape I can see where suicides are at an all time high. According to Bing Chat around 200 people die from a Fentanyl overdose per day so that's one about every 7 minutes. The first friend struggled with the same addiction but did get clean with Suboxone and using a support group but depression can still come about and I think this was his situation as he became very withdrawn and took his life by hanging himself. He tried a couple times in the past but by other less traumatizing methods. His wife did call the police a few days prior to the incident as he was thinking of self harm but the police did not view him seriously or as a threat to himself or others. Both were saved well before these tragedies took place. If this is TMI or not fit for a post feel free to delete it. It gives me some healing every time I tell it.
I disagree with “once saved, always saved”. That is not sensible and operates like a get out of jail card. One has to die in a state of sanctifying grace to be sure of salvation. Of course God judges us on the entirety of our lives, not just one moment of accepting Jesus. That said, I agree that suicide can’t necessarily damn someone. We must all pray, atone and carry our cross daily in the hope of salvation.
Yes off to hell because the unconditionally loving God is a psycho parent that burns his kids for using freewill and his cohort Stan or Santa of Satan… I get the red guys mixed up. One has horns and a tail and a naughty list, while the other has a big bag of toys, flying reindeer and a naughty list… Funny that one simply gives gifts to the “good” kids, while the other tortures the “bad” kids for eternity. Whenever I see this stupidity, I think just how stupid are humans anyway and just how long will they hang out in the dark ages, doing exactly what the spiritual masters of the ages said not to do.. Don’t judge or be judged. FYI Jesus wasn’t religious and God didn’t write the bible. Men of the dark ages wrote the bible and all of Jesus’s teachings were of love, compassion and mastery, if you follow his way rather than kiss his ass in fear. There is no truth, love, wisdom or compassion in fear nor the “fear of God”.
Amen ! And thanks for the navigation and reminders of Gods promises! 👍🙏!!
Thank you for clearly expressing the truth found in Scripture: that Jesus 'paid it all' on the cross. If sinning is mankind's problem, then not sinning is the solution... but the Bible never suggests that avoiding sin is how one gets to Heaven. Nicely done!
Mr. McCraigh, excellent piece, thank you. Suicide is a very difficult subject. I was saved as a child, broke with my Christian faith due to awful grief in youth, spent 35 years in sorrowful wandering and finally made my way back to the Household of God, face down in the mud and filthy from head to spiritual toes. God's mercy brought me back. I still deal with deep depression and CLING, CLING, AND CLING to God every single day. I repent quickly, I ask for His counsel and guidance and have a good and solid church where I live. I am an open book. Faith in Christ does not immediately confer "all things are great now and I am just fine." That is not true, as faith in God and His Son is a daily walk, step by step. I have made progress, for which I am grateful and much of my own Substack is a sharing of my journey through the chaos of the sexual revolution and how the devil lies so well and how he ensnared so many of my Boomer generation. I am just grateful I came back! Suicide has crossed my mind on multiple occasions but I resist, holding on by a fingertip at times but grateful for God's patience and mercy, for the ministry to the brokenhearted that He has given me through the gift of words. I LONG to go Home, though! God bless you for your writing, Sir.
That was outstanding Jim. I think it will give people great peace. Thank you.
Thank you Jim for a perspective on this difficult topic. I resolve to take up my cross daily, the rest is up to Yeshua. I teach the risen Christ through The Word. If The Word is silent, so shall I be. You are a gifted man and I respect your thoughts.
Now this is an interesting topic! I've always heard that people who commit suicide and take their own life are made to come back and are born into a new physical body and that person has to live the same life over again and deal with the same problems over again that made that person take their life to begin with until that person lives out their full life! That our Creator and Most High will send a soul back into another physical body to live out another earthly life and suffer as punishment for taking his or her own life in a previous lifetime! My thoughts on suicide are that if a person purposely with the intention of ending his or her own earthly life is interfering with the Most High's plan for that person's soul! The Most High gives us life on earth for a reason and a purpose because He knows each souls potential, who and what we can become because He created us! I believe that He sends us into a physical body on earth inorder for us to develop our light and to shine our light that He gives us! So if a person takes their own life then they are putting out their own light and being disrespectful to The Most High and rejecting Him by ending the life that He gave that person! I think that suicide would be an abomination to our Creator and is disrespecting Him! Does a soul automatically go to hell for taking their own life, that's a good question! I don't want to try that and find out!
My Father Chose Suicide After A Long Battle With Cancer Using Canada's MAID Medical Assistance In Dying Program But He Was Never Saved & Would Hear Nothing Of Jesus Christ! Suicide Is Self Murder & Directly Goes Against "Thou Shall Not Commit Murder"!
This is a tough subject on which many good Christians disagree. My father was a minister for 60 years and knew the Bible better than anyone I've known yet he and I disagreed on this subject.
I tend to agree with what you've written here. Though, in fairness there is an argument to be made that someone who commits suicide was never truly saved.
It's not as simple as that, I suspect. I can surely think of reasons why a Christian might commit suicide (accidental drug overdose, overwhelming pain, to avoid torture, etc). But it is my opinion that God will judge fairly.
I do not believe suicide automatically sends you to hell, but it could certainly be an indication that you weren't truly saved in the first place.
Well said. Amen
Ephesians 2:8-9
King James Version
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Thank you LORD for this promise.
Thank you, Jim. As always, you have parsed this difficult subject with biblical truth, and as always, it is spot on. God's promises are always true, no exceptions.
Thank you Jim for this post as it provides some closure for two friends who died from suicide. My very close friend struggled with emotional issues (Bi-polar). In 2016 he brought Heroin into the house saying it was cocaine and I said it's usually white but he said this was a different blend. We both did it and felt on top of the world. The next day he asked if we could buy more and I said why not. The person he bought it from asked me "So you don't have a problem with Smack in your home?" I said it's coke right and he said no it's Heroin. We still made the purchase. In 2014 I was diagnosed with Tardive Dyskinesia which is a permanent uncontrollable movement disorder and it seemed like the drug either reduced the movement or took my mind off them. I recall him saying don't get hooked, well that happens really fast and the withdrawals make you feel near death or wishing you were dead. After depleting all my financial resources I told my friend we had to stop and get clean now. We did and it was not easy but Suboxone helped us get over the hump. This lasted until the Plandemic of Convid came about. Once the stimulus payments came in my friend bought some more and we were back at it again but now it was strictly Fentanyl. Odd how the US leaves Afghanistan around the same time Fentanyl starts to come in through the border. The new years resolution for 2022 was to get clean so I was tapering us off the stuff by limiting how much could be spent and we both got back on Suboxone again. The day my friend is served with divorce papers (Already thought he was divorced) he asked if we could get a little and I caved feeling sorry for him. He comes back and said we really got hooked up we both did that. He was going to watch videos on YouTube in the bedroom like he always did and I was in the other room listening to videos with headphones on and it ends and I don't hear anything from his laptop playing and so I go into the room and he looked like he was asleep. I try to wake him up and am shaking him and yelling into his ear I was going to call 911 and his brother thinking he was playing around and I then realized he wasn't. I administered Narcan twice and nothing and then called 911. They worked on him for what seemed like an hour and came onto the porch and said he was gone. I was in state of shock and was taking his death really hard. I know this was not right but in looking for closure I contacted these Psychics. They were telling me things that were really spot on where I believed a connection was made. At one point I said I know this is probably sinful and goes against the bible but they said no it was biblical and we are supposed to discern the spirits. Basically they said he was under attack by too many Demons and decided to take his life with the Fentanyl. Thinking back too him saying we were hooked up it didn't really look like it to me. So much more I could say as it was pay per question and I asked lots of questions. In closing they said he was in a good place and surrounded by puppies and that was his way of healing. He would always beg me to get a puppy that he could raise and would take care of. This is now set to go to trial after being sent 3 subpoenas which I feel has caused me PTSD because it's hard to move forward with this always on my mind. I called the DA stating I do not know who this guy is that I am supposed to testify against (Manufacturer) and they said it was mainly to prove my friend is dead. I am thinking well you have a death certificate. The man my friend bought the stuff from is in equal trouble but with him going against the person he purchased it from I guess he will get a lighter sentence. Many times I wish I would have died as well but am prayerful that once the trial is over I can finally move forward. With the political and societal landscape I can see where suicides are at an all time high. According to Bing Chat around 200 people die from a Fentanyl overdose per day so that's one about every 7 minutes. The first friend struggled with the same addiction but did get clean with Suboxone and using a support group but depression can still come about and I think this was his situation as he became very withdrawn and took his life by hanging himself. He tried a couple times in the past but by other less traumatizing methods. His wife did call the police a few days prior to the incident as he was thinking of self harm but the police did not view him seriously or as a threat to himself or others. Both were saved well before these tragedies took place. If this is TMI or not fit for a post feel free to delete it. It gives me some healing every time I tell it.
Thank you for writing on this topic!
I disagree with “once saved, always saved”. That is not sensible and operates like a get out of jail card. One has to die in a state of sanctifying grace to be sure of salvation. Of course God judges us on the entirety of our lives, not just one moment of accepting Jesus. That said, I agree that suicide can’t necessarily damn someone. We must all pray, atone and carry our cross daily in the hope of salvation.
That is one of the best explanations I have ever read. Thank you, Jim.